How to Escape Debt & Develop A Wealthy Mindset with Curry Glassell

How to escape debt and develop a wealthy mindset with curry glassell

Joel Annesley:                       Welcome to the Mindset To Millions Podcast. I’m Joel Annesley and I am super excited to introduce our guest on the show today. This person’s going to give us some pretty incredible insights to understanding our beliefs around money from a really interesting perspective. An amazing background, this person was raised in a billionaire household and then found themselves paying off millions of dollars in their adulthood. Then they went on to create and sustain a high level of personal wealth. An amazing story, I’m really excited to introduce the Right Riches For You facilitator, dynamic producer, author, philanthropist and art loving mother of two, the fabulous Curry Glassell.

Curry Glassell:                      Oh my goodness Joel, thank you so much. What a … Can I hire you to do that more? Can you present me like that all over the world? That would be so amazing and fabulous.

Joel Annesley:                       I love it. How are you going today? I love your energy.

Curry Glassell:                      Thank you. Not bad for five am Texas time.

Joel Annesley:                       That’s what I was going to say, if you don’t love what you do, there’s no way you’re going to get up for five am.

Curry Glassell:                      It’s really true.

Joel Annesley:                       So pleased to have you on the call.

Curry Glassell:                      Yeah, so true, so true. Actually, what you just said is a key, key mindset. We want to talk about the mindset to creating a different financial reality, one of them is to love what you do and to do what you love.

Joel Annesley:                       So true. That is also my mantra. Doesn’t it take so much to get people to actually wake up to that? We get so fixed into this mindset of, “I’ve got to do what everyone else is trying to tell us to do,” that you actually forget to do what you want to really achieve in life. You know what I mean?

Curry Glassell:                      Absolutely, absolutely. I love the fact that your show is called, Mindset To Millions, or, Millions To Mindset? Which one is it?

Joel Annesley:                       Mindset To Millions.

Curry Glassell:                      Yes. Well, it can go both ways actually, because when you do what you love and you love what you do, then money isn’t the issue. You’re enjoying your life so much, money comes along for the party and for the fun of it.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah.

Curry Glassell:                      Right?

Joel Annesley:                       It’s the perspective. It’s making that shift. I’m really excited to explore that further one the show tonight. I should say early this morning, for you.

Curry Glassell:                      Tonight, tomorrow.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, tomorrow, it’s all the same. Look, I would love to dive in a little bit deeper to learn a little bit more about your story. From what I was reading, it’s like this riches to rags and then back to riches again. I’m like, “Wow, what a journey.”

Curry Glassell:                      It’s a little bit more riches to big ass … Can we say the F-word on your radio show?

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah.

Curry Glassell:                      Maybe not.

Joel Annesley:                       We can, we can. We can beep it out, we can beep it out.

Curry Glassell:                      I was going to say, big ass fucking debt, and then back to getting richer and richer. Actually I’m still building my riches, because being raised by a billionaire is also a little bit of a warped mindset, let me tell you. It had its good, it had its bad and it’s had its really ugly.

Joel Annesley:                       I can imagine, I can imagine. You grew up in Houston, Texas.

Curry Glassell:                      I did. What would you like to know?

Joel Annesley:                       Let’s talk about … The really interesting thing is, most of us, the majority of us who grow up in a … We have the mindset of not coming from wealth. We have all these mindset beliefs that says we’re not worthy, we don’t deserve anything more than our parents. Tell me about your mindset when you were young.

Curry Glassell:                      When I was young, oh dear. Well, that’s interesting because … Are you metaphysical at all? I’m not sure where we’re … I don’t know that much about your program but do people who listen to you believe in past lives at all?

Joel Annesley:                       I am so willing to go there. I believe in past lives myself so let’s do it, let’s go there.

Curry Glassell:                      Okay.

Joel Annesley:                       Go on.

Curry Glassell:                      If you’re willing to be a little bit on the wild side, because the minute you asked me that I’m like, “Well, yes, and I’m a walk-in.”

Joel Annesley:                       Go on.

Curry Glassell:                      I’m a walk-in. The thing is, my life although it seemed to be glittery and wonderful to people who looked from the outside and say on the outside, because I was surrounded by incredible amounts of money, actually I wanted to die at least two times when I was a little girl because the people who raised me were not nurturing, not kind, not caring and not interested in me whatsoever. As a little girl what I do recall, only from I’ve asked for flashbacks and things and to become more aware as I’ve been writing my autobiography, which maybe one day will come out, we’ll see. If not, I’ll have to tell the story, I’ll have to tell some other stories.

But anyway, I was so unhappy and I felt so unacknowledged and I felt so not deserving, I love the fact that you used that word, I totally felt like I didn’t deserve to be there, I didn’t deserve what was happening and I should just go away and die. That’s pretty much how I felt most of my life. Yeah, it was the strangest thing. I really felt like I was caught in a prison, like one of those mirrored … at the carnival, the hall of mirrors, the strange distorted mirrors, because I would go to school and I would be aware of all these people projecting, “Oh my God, you’re so lucky,” “Oh my God, you’re so rich.” I’m like, “What is so lucky about people not talking to you? What is so lucky about people being mean to you? What is so lucky about being literally physically beaten if you say that you don’t agree with something in your household?” There was a lot of abuse, financial, physical and emotional in my growing up. I will say, I put myself into boarding school and I saved my own life by doing that.

Joel Annesley:                       That really touches me. That’s an incredible experience. I want to know a little bit more about what’s going on in your head at that time. What got you through? Did you seek … You took yourself to boarding school.

Curry Glassell:                      I did and that-

Joel Annesley:                       You got outside of your environment, you got outside of that.

Curry Glassell:                      That was the beginning. Yeah, that was a beginning of me, I want to say, surviving. I want to say my entire life was about surviving the violence in my household. Then, once I got out, then it was like, “Oh, wow, now I need to figure out how to live and how to create a life, and I know nothing. I am totally ignorant. I don’t even know … ” Because I was so afraid to talk to people as a kid, I actually didn’t even know how to talk to people. I had to learn how to engage with people. When I was growing up, I can tell you this, we never had dinner parties, there were people that came over. I never had any interaction with the outside world, except when I was at school.

Joel Annesley:                       It was really sheltered.

Curry Glassell:                      Yes.

Joel Annesley:                       You simply couldn’t be yourself.

Curry Glassell:                      Absolutely. I absolutely could not be myself. Then I was going back and forth between my father’s household and my mother’s household, and really I know why my mother and my father got together, and I know why they divorced after about nine months or two years or whoever story is correct, which I’m not really sure still to this day, but because they were both completely narcissistic. They were both completely egocentric and self-centered. This is a real challenge because from what I’ve learned, and really I have to say I owe my sanity to the Access Consciousness tools, and myself for finding them. Because at 16, when I left home, I started going, “Surely there’s got to be a way to be happy on this planet. Surely that I did not come here just to be abused. Surely something else is possible.”

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, there’s got to be a better way to live life.

Curry Glassell:                      Yeah. I started that thinking process when I was 16. Before that it was like, “God, if I could just make it through the next few months,” or, “the next year.” Or, “God, I want to die.” Or, “How am I going to survive this?” I would hide with the help. The help became my allies. They would hide me sometimes. I adored our cook and I adored the morning maid, and they sheltered me energetically.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, right. They were down to earth.

Curry Glassell:                      They were real and they were kind and they were caring. Did you ever see the movie, The Help?

Joel Annesley:                       No, I haven’t.

Curry Glassell:                      Oh boy, I would suggest that everyone see that. If you want to see how life in the South is, at least in the 50’s and 60’s, when I grew up, that is a true tale, let me tell you, of upper middle class and upper-class southern people. It’s a really interesting way to look at it because … I cried through that whole movie. One of the things that struck me was that the maid that cared for this little girl told her every day, “You is smart, you is pretty, you is important.” I thought, “You know what, I would have had such an easier life if one person in my life had told me I was smart, I was pretty and I was important.”

This is really the driving force of my life Joel, is to make sure that everybody knows, they is smart, they is pretty and they is important, because once you know those three things and that becomes your point of view, nothing can stop you. Not death, not life, not sorrow, not anything. I mean death or debt, and I say them similar because they actually are pretty similar.

Joel Annesley:                       Agreed, agreed, – Curry, that is such a beautiful story. It’s so true, isn’t it? That in those early years we are so influenced by our environment, and sometimes we can pick up some beliefs, some shit that really will stay with us for a while unless we work on it. We really have to work on it.

Curry Glassell:                      We really do, we really do.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, yeah. Let’s fast forward a little bit.

Curry Glassell:                      Good, good.

Joel Annesley:                       Let’s look at the journey of then being in debt and working your way out of debt. Tell me a little bit about that.

Curry Glassell:                      Sure. Well, again, it was based in things that I was totally unconscious about, unaware about and totally frightened about. I totally had no confidence in my capacity to deal with money. I remember spreading my bills out on my bed and it would take me three full days to pay my own bills. I thought, “I’m-” What’s that?

Joel Annesley:                       Sorry.

Curry Glassell:                      Jingle bell.

Joel Annesley:                       Continue.

Curry Glassell:                      I would go into this massive self-judgment and think, “I am the most retarded, stupid person in the world. Surely, everybody else has an easy time paying bills. I don’t know how they do it, I never saw anybody pay bills.” I thought, “This is like one of the most intense things for me to do in my life.” It would take me three full days, once a month I would basically turn off, back then we didn’t have cell phones, but I would bar myself up in my bedroom. All my bills would be on my king-sized bed and I would set about, I’m going- ” … leaving this bed until I write out every check, pay every bill and make sure that everything’s done.”

Those were the days that I grew up in. When I got married, I thought, “Oh, finally a saviour,” because men are supposed to be able to manage all this, right? Yes, first big, big, big mistake. I gave total control of all my money, which I did have some money from my father. He had given me some money and I gave control of it to my now ex-husband. Talk about something you should never, ever do, and this is what I tell my students, I tell my clients. I tell everyone I work with, “Never give your money away, your power away to anyone else. Whether it’s a financial advisor, whether it’s a lawyer, whether it’s a doctor, whether it’s a guru, whether it’s an Indian chief, whether it’s a husband, whether it’s a child, never trust anyone else with your money. Never, ever, ever.” But I didn’t have that advice back then. I was like, “Oh my God,” because what I saw growing up, what I saw, literally I observed that my dad went to work, paid the bills, and my stepmother sort of piddled around the house and took us to school and back. That’s what I saw. That’s what I thought you were supposed to do.

Then I also got these messages from my dad, “You’re supposed to get married and your husband will take care of you. Marry a rich man and go away.” So I had all these different things, projections, expectations and judgements coming at me. I did marry, I was a little bit of a resistant bitch so I married a poor man. Yes, I know. Not my brightest move I might add. Let me also suggest, marry rich if you can possibly. Marry someone who has money no matter what. Because-

Joel Annesley:                       But a friend of mine says, “But a man is not a financial plan.”

Curry Glassell:                      A man is not a financial plan, and if he has a job and he has money, life can be a lot easier. The problem was I resisted the money because for me, I thought money was the root of all my problems. I thought because of the wealth and the money, that’s why people were so unkind and mean. I had a lot of mindsets, as you would say, I had a lot of points of view that were creating my reality and that were leading me up to this slide into debt that occurred for me. So, I got married, I was in love with him, he was going to be a preacher, and he had no money. He did come from a good family that had some money, but anyway, that’s another story, but not that much money.

Anyway, not anything compared to what I was raised around. His father was definitely not going to give him any money, so it was really wild. Anyway, to make a long story short, it was like we were two kids out of control. It was the first time that I didn’t have my father’s pounding on me, “Don’t do this, don’t do that. If you do this … ” All these rules. So I felt free, and then my ex-husband, poor guy, he had the same kind of thing with his dad who was kind of strict. He was like, “Oh my God, look at all this money we had.” The next thing I know we’re moving to Florida, we’re buying a boat, we’re buying a lake house on the lake in Oklahoma and we’re building this fabulously huge house in this part of Florida, fancy pants Tampa Palms.

I’m thinking that he’s caring for this money, that he knows there is a limited amount here, and he’s not going to spend all of it, surely, right? But I actually become very unconscious, I willfully let him take control and I begin to fall into this role that I learned growing up, that my job was to have the baby and my job was to decorate the home and my job was to try and be friends with … have a social club…

Joel Annesley:                       And hand over all the finances to him to look after.

Curry Glassell:                      Yes.

Joel Annesley:                       You had no idea what was going on with the books in terms of what he was doing?

Curry Glassell:                      That’s right. That’s right, and of course the books tripled, quadrupled in size from when it was just me and my one house and all the utilities. All of a sudden we tripled, everything tripled. I was like … Yes, and I did not look at the books. Please, please, please, everybody out there listening, never do this. Please learn from my example and never do this to yourself. The thing is, really he [inaudible 00:19:40] handled our life just fine. We didn’t have any creditors, we never had any problems, because I saw the mail, it’s not like we didn’t pay our bills. It’s just we were spending a lot of money. I also didn’t really pay attention or noticed when … For instance, when we divorced, I found out that we had three pianos that were not paid for that we owed money on. Three pianos. That’s just an example.

Joel Annesley:                       Seriously, who needs three pianos?

Curry Glassell:                      Who needs three pianos? Except if you’re running a church and a day school. A, you have to have a grand piano in your church for your music leader. You can’t have a church without a piano, that’s unthinkable. Then you have … I’m trying to think why we had the other piano. I can’t remember right now. It was either we bought it for the music leader, or we had it in our home. I can’t recall.

Joel Annesley:                       Okay, okay.

Curry Glassell:                      I’m sorry, I can’t even remember. Anyway, those are the kind of things. I found myself in about two million dollars worth of debt at the divorce. This was all types of things like that. Everything we were living, everything we were doing, he had done everything on credit. Like, we had just paid a down payment on everything. I was like, “Holy smokes.” The first I did, let me tell you the first thing I did, was I went to my dad and I basically, basically … What is the opposite of saving face? I basically said, “I’m such an idiot. Look what I’ve done, will you help me?”

If my child did that to me now, I would totally help him and work out a plan, but my dad was like, “Too bad kiddo, you’re on your own.” This is a multi multi billionaire. This is a guy who was one of the first to … His father made money in the oil and gas industry days, in the 30’s and 40’s. This is not someone who couldn’t do it. He could. I asked him if he would help me pay it off and I could pay him off over time. It wasn’t like I wanted to completely get released from the debt, right?

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, yeah, yeah. But even the act of you having to go back and approach your father, and go, “I’ve stuffed up. I need your help.” That in itself.

Curry Glassell:                      Yeah, and I did not, there was no reward for that, there was nothing. There was just more shit on my face because of that, right?

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah.

Curry Glassell:                      I was, “Oh man, okay.” Then I’m like, I think I cried for three days and then at this point of course I think I had a three-month-old and a four-year-old, so I went, “Okay Curry, you’ve got to get your shit together because something has to change here. What do we do? What do we do? What do we do?” I thought, “Okay, the only thing I know to do,” and this came to me, literally this was my own thinking. I went, “I’m going to call everybody I owe money to and I’m going to talk to them personally and see if I can work out a payment plan that actually fits in my budget.”

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, yeah. Step one was negotiate a payment plan.

Curry Glassell:                      Step one was negotiate. Second step, when I realised that I still had much more money to cover than I had budget for, I went, “Okay, what can I sell.” Step two was sell everything I could. Everything, the pianos, the boat. I called on a friend of mine who lived around Kemah, Texas. I actually paid for him to go to Florida, get the boat, drive it to Kemah and sell it, and of course I gave him a percentage of the sale. I called on friends of mine to help me. I’m like, “Can you please help me?” I gave them a percentage for helping me after the sale was complete.

Joel Annesley:                       Then you’re negotiating a win-win.

Curry Glassell:                      Actually thank you so much for asking me this question Joel because I never really acknowledged that somewhere I came up with this idea to do all this. No one taught me ever. I never was taught a thing about money or how to manage money. I really had been winging it by the seat of my pants until I met Gary Douglas and Dain Heer and I started taking their classes and I recognised there’s a difference between being unconscious with money and being conscious with money.

Joel Annesley:                       At this time, that’s when you got access to this information and you started to-

Curry Glassell:                      No.

Joel Annesley:                       No?

Curry Glassell:                      No, no, no, no, no.

Joel Annesley:                       No?

Curry Glassell:                      No, no. This was 1996.

Joel Annesley:                       Right, right.

Curry Glassell:                      My divorce was in 1996. I did not have the pleasure to meet Gary or Dain until 2001.

Joel Annesley:                       Right, okay. So you essentially started to put the pieces together yourself. You went through … It was turmoil.

Curry Glassell:                      I can’t hear you.

Joel Annesley:                       Can you hear me? Sorry. Hello?

Curry Glassell:                      I just … Are you there?

Joel Annesley:                       Hello? I can hear you fine. Can you hear me?

Curry Glassell:                      Okay. You can hear me, it’s kind of gotten a bit wonky.

Joel Annesley:                       Okay. Let’s see how we go.

Curry Glassell:                      Lot of energy, lot of energy going on.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah.

Curry Glassell:                      Actually this is what occurred, I actually created that and I sold everything I could sell. I sold it for a really, really low price. However it was money that went towards that debt, and so it made a huge difference for me. I sold anything I could at the price I could.

Joel Annesley:                       Right, right. Tell me, this was a process, obviously a number of years, where you went through the turmoil but you put this into place and you slowly started to dig your way out. Is that right?

Curry Glassell:                      Yes, yes. It is true. It was slow. I just was stubborn and I didn’t stop. The thing that really encouraged me was that when people were willing to negotiate me, that gave me hope. I was like, “Oh gosh, okay, so I can actually do something. I can actually create … I can save myself.” It was ironic because I was assisting my husband with the church and we were always telling people that Jesus saves, and I’m like, “Damn, I’m definitely saving myself. Jesus is totally not saving me on this one.” I’m like, “Dang.” I had some very enlightening moments along the way getting out of debt.

I would really encourage anyone, the two number one things to getting out of debt would be, know that you can negotiate. If you’re willing to be there personally and you’re willing to talk to people and you’re willing to put your entire being into creating a change, you can make a change. But you can’t make a change sitting on the sidelines, you can’t make a change hoping that someone’s going to save you, you can’t make a change if all you think in your mind is that you can’t make a change.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, yeah. That’s really powerful. I think what you’ve just indicated there essentially is that the way out was to take control of the situation. Rather than giving power to somebody else, you took control of the situation.

Curry Glassell:                      Yes, absolutely.

Joel Annesley:                       I think that was one of the things that I definitely wanted to explore tonight, was if somebody listening to this is in a similar position, where things are completely out of control … Maybe one of the things I’d like to also talk about is what goes on in your head at the time. Some of the thoughts that come up when you realise that you’re in, for lack of a better word you’re in the shit and you need to find a way out. What’s going on in your head?

Curry Glassell:                      The thing that … I love your term mindset. I’m going to say, my mindset changed and I went, “Okay.” I got clear, I created this shit. Now, how am I going to un-create it? How am I going to change it? This is my responsibility. The very first thing that really, and this again I encourage and facilitate all my clients, you must be brutally honest with yourself and get clear that this mess is your mess. It doesn’t matter if you had a husband, it doesn’t matter if you had a bad boss, it doesn’t matter if you had a terrible partner that screwed you. Somewhere, somehow, you were okay with and you were part in the creation of it. Now if you’re willing that is the number one step, to get that you created where you are.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah. I think one of the things that I can think about here too is, there’s obviously going to be that period of feeling shameful, being in this almost like a depression. To come through that and then to step into owning it and being okay with it, I think that’s what you’re talking about, isn’t it? It’s making that step to get beyond that negative self talk.

Curry Glassell:                      You absolutely have to make that step. Now I will say this, it was a, I want to say like a ping pong match for me until I started learning and incorporating the Access tools into my life. It was really a ping pong match for me, from, “I can’t do it. I can’t do it. Okay. I am getting out. Oh my God, I’m so wrong, I’m so bad.” It was literally ping pong, ping pong. I went back and forth and back and forth for really those four, five years. I would say I went in and out of depression for four or five years, even while I was creating getting out of it because I didn’t know these basic tools.

I didn’t know that I didn’t have to live in blame, shame and regret. I didn’t know there were implanted points of view. I didn’t know I had choice. I didn’t know that if I acknowledged one thing that I did that was good and positive and making a change, that that would launch me into creating more positive, good and amazing changes. I didn’t know these basic tools that have changed my whole universe. I didn’t know that every choice I made created an outcome. I had no clue I even had choice at that time.

Joel Annesley:                       It’s that thing of running on automatic versus taking control.

Curry Glassell:                      Yes. Yes. Yes, I was so on automatic like I don’t know what, automatic like up, down, can I, can’t I. I went back and forth in my mind. It really was not easy. I did do it. I think I’m just one of the most stubborn people you’ll ever meet, and I had this driving force inside of me that was like, “Surely there has to be something better. Where is happiness?”

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, yeah. Can I ask a question too around, for the parents listening out there, because you’ve got two kids, two boys, is that right?

Curry Glassell:                      Yes I do, though they’re not boys anymore.

Joel Annesley:                       They’re not boys anymore.

Curry Glassell:                      One just turned 25 and on August ninth my youngest, who was four month old at the time of the divorce, will be 21.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah. How do you go about looking after your family while you’re going through all of that? Essentially there’s going to be wanting to save face as well, you don’t want to drag the ones that you love into the turmoil that’s going on in your head and on those statements. Tell me a little bit more about that, something maybe you could say to anyone in that situation.

Curry Glassell:                      I had to prioritise. Before I became aware of the Access Consciousness tools, which was 1996 to 2001, what I had to do was, I had to prioritise and put myself on a very strict budget because that’s all I knew to do. Like I said, I sold everything that was excess and I also moved into a very small house, the smallest house I’d ever lived in in my life. I began to look at, where do I need to put my money? What do I need to do here while I’m going through this transition and this change in getting of this debt?

For me, my priorities were school for the kids, clothes for the kids, food, shelter, the real basic. Basically I had plenty of clothes and I limited any shopping I did to … Believe it or not this is what I did, after December when … the Fall sales and the Summer sales, they come two times a year, I started buying clothes during those times. I really began to be grateful for what I had and not spend excessively. I limited myself. Now this is not what Access Consciousness taught me, but this is all I knew to do at the time.

Joel Annesley:                       Right, right. Okay.

Curry Glassell:                      I will say I wish I had had those tools earlier. I would have flourished sooner because one of the greatest tools in Access Consciousness for creating greater wealth is what can you add to your life? Don’t slow down your life, don’t stop your life, don’t make it smaller, don’t spend less. Don’t spend more necessarily, by any means, but what can you add to your life to create and generate another revenue stream? I never had that thought before, until 2001, 2002. That thought never occurred to me, I didn’t know that was even possible.

I had four years of a very difficult time, and then I did create it and I can tell you, these tools … It wasn’t until the Access Consciousness tools and those classes, then I began to start creating the wealth again. I was basically stuck in getting rid of the debt and surviving, and then I met Gary Douglas and Dr. Dain Heer and I began to recognise that I was the potency and the power and the source of my future. Now, what did I desire for my future? That is what began to recreate my wealth, is me acknowledging that I was the source and that I had choice and these amazing tools that have totally transformed my life and my financial reality.

Joel Annesley:                       That’s really powerful. I’d love to know a little bit more about these tools and some of the first things that you’d look at doing, like stepping out of those limiting beliefs and really getting on track with our finances. Tell me some of the things that we can do with these tools to really start on the right path.

Curry Glassell:                      The very first tool that changed my life is … Now remember, I came from I was raised in the church, so all my life I heard, “Tithe to the church.” That was common. You give 10% of everything you own to the church, that’s just what you did. So, I get to Access Consciousness classes and they say, “Give 10% to you if you want to create a greater future.” I went, “Wow, you’re kidding, right?” I’m like, “That’s like the coolest thing ever.” I knew exactly what they were talking about. I’m like, “Oh, so I become like my own church. That’s like really cool.” I’m building up my own congregation. It was so easy for me.

I immediately, the first class I heard that, put away 10% of everything that comes into your life, whether it’s $100, $1,000 or more. Put it away get a little safe box or put it under your bed or whatever feels easy, I don’t know what part of town you live in but whatever feels easy for you. If it’s a life for you it’s going to be right for you. For me, I began to put away money into … actually it wasn’t a savings fund because savings is your saving for a rainy day. That is not the energy I was looking to create. The 10% fund was a fund that was me. It was all about me and it was about my future and it was telling the universe that I’m important, I’m valuable and I love money.

Joel Annesley:                       Excellent.

Curry Glassell:                      I love having money, as opposed to spending money.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah. It was getting beyond … because one of the things I think we often do is we pay everyone else first before we pay ourselves, right?

Curry Glassell:                      Yes.

Joel Annesley:                       When we pay ourselves, that’s often via actually spending. What you’re saying here is you paid yourself via an investment in yourself. You looked at yourself as an investment, is that right?

Curry Glassell:                      Yes, absolutely, and paid myself first and then everything else second. This is probably … I don’t call myself a financial advisor, okay? I’m not a CPA, I’m none of that. I’m strictly talking to you on an energetic level, that this, if you do this for however long it takes you, whether sometimes it’s six months, nine months, a year and a half. But if you, when you get to the amount of money that is accumulated in that, what I call my self-respect fund, other people call it their 10% fund. For me it was about gaining self-respect for myself so I called it that. Once that amount was equal to six months of my gross income, I had a release and an ease about money, and worry basically went out the window. There was this ease and this peace and it’s energetic. You just get it when you get it, you experience it when you experience it and it changes your whole point of view around money and you.

Joel Annesley:                       Because you essentially change the association you had with money. You essentially change the fact that you no longer were having that lack relationship to money, is that right?

Curry Glassell:                      You no longer have lack, that is it right there. You no longer have lack because no matter what your week looks like, you have whatever, say your income is $5,000 a month. When you imagine having $50,000 in a bank account, just think of that right now. If you had $50,000 in a bank account or if you had five months worth of your gross income in a bank account, whatever it is. Maybe it’s 50,000, maybe it’s 15,000, maybe it’s 150,000. I’m not sure where you all are at or where you live from. Whatever it is, your sense of need will dissipate and you won’t function any longer from, “I need, I need, I need.”

Joel Annesley:                       It’s hard to build wealth from that period of neediness, right? It just doesn’t work.

Curry Glassell:                      It’s impossible because need always leads to greed.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah.

Curry Glassell:                      You’re always worried and then there’s that energy. Actually, to turn the tables a little bit, that’s a great energy to spot if you want to get a good deal when you’re buying antiques. You will get the best deal from someone who functions from need because they’re ready, they will be willing to sell you whatever they have for the bottom price.

Joel Annesley:                       Makes sense.

Curry Glassell:                      These principles work in so many ways and they’re so practical. They work and they’re practical. Okay, let’s go over what I said. First, we’re coming out a can’t mindset. That’s most important.

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah, exactly, exactly. So, second step?

Curry Glassell:                      Second step, what did we say the second step is? This is the 10% fund?

Joel Annesley:                       10%, yeah.

Curry Glassell:                      Third step, what can you add to your life to create and generate more money right away? What can you add? What can you add? What talent and ability and capacity do you have that you’re not using to your fullest potential?

Joel Annesley:                       That’s a really powerful question as well because a lot of us don’t go there. We just do what we’ve done previously and we don’t open up to our natural gifted abilities.

Curry Glassell:                      Correct, correct. It’s really strange but my hunch is the thing you take for granted is the thing that will make you the most money. The thing you don’t acknowledge as great about you could possibly be the thing that could make you the most money.

Joel Annesley:                       That is very powerful Curry. That is a take home moment right there. Thanks for sharing that. Look, I do want to wrap things up shortly.

Curry Glassell:                      Sure, sure.

Joel Annesley:                       Let’s look at how you … The program that you offer, how can people get involved and continue the discussion?

Curry Glassell:                      Okay. We have several ways. One I have, my newest baby is a podcast, which is really cool. You can find it on iTunes or pod, it’s called Gems, G-E-M-S. That’s Glamour Elegance Money and Sex, and not necessarily in that order. Those are little tidbits that come out weekly, or you go to my website, There’s a list of the classes I teach, there’s free videos, there are links too. You can see if this is the kind of class that is something that interests you, if what I say turns you on or interests you, that’s great. You can also go to Access Consciousness. I’m one of many facilitators that facilitate these amazing tools. I just happened to facilitate around money and wealth and riches because it’s fun for me. Is that good?

Joel Annesley:                       Yeah. I love that.

Curry Glassell:                      Okay.

Joel Annesley:                       I encourage everyone listening to go check out Go check out the podcast. Curry, it has been such a pleasure to have you on the call.  Again, thank you so much for getting up early to speak. I’m sure everyone listening will really appreciate it. I love that you went there with your story and there was no filter. I think everyone will be able to relate and really connect with you on a really personal level. That’s really beautiful. Thanks again. I encourage everyone to go check out Curry and what she’s doing. I think she’s changing lives. Before we sign off, have you got any final words?

Curry Glassell:                      Choice creates. Whatever choice you make will create your future, so make a choice. And, and, if you don’t like the choice you’re making you can change it in 10 seconds and make another choice. You’re never stuck with that one choice.

Joel Annesley:                       Powerful, very powerful. Alright, thank you once again Curry. I hope you have an awesome day.

Curry Glassell:                      You’re so welcome. You’re so welcome. Thank you so much Joel, it’s been an honour to be with you. Have an awesome evening.


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